Jesus, Palestinian?

Causing quite a stir last weekend, Linda Sarsour tweeted that

“Jesus was Palestinian of Nazareth and is described in the Quran as being brown copper skinned with woolly hair.”

Really?

The Quran was written some 600 years after the death of Jesus.  Are we expected to believe that fact, if true (?) who would know so long after the fact?

Arafat once claimed

“Palestinian Arabs are descendants of the Jebusites” displaced when King David conquered Jerusalem.  Arafat also argued that “Abraham was an Iraqi.”

In his Christmas speech in 2013 to Christians in the PA and throughout the world, Mahmoud Abbas said:

“In Bethlehem, 2,000 years ago, Jesus was born – a Palestinian who brought the gospel and became a guide for millions worldwide, just as we, the Palestinians, are fighting for our freedom, 2,000 years later. We try to walk in his footsteps to the extent possible.”

An utterly ridiculous claim .

 

Arafat said Jesus was a Palestinian. Palestinian author and TV host agree.

Hanan Ashrawi in a speech during the 1991 Madrid Conference, answering a question from a representative of an American Christian broadcasting outlet, when he said he “didn’t understand” how Ashrawi could ask Israel “to exchange land for peace,” because “when Judaea and Samaria were in the hands of the Arab world, Israel was attacked three times.”… said

“First of all, I find your reference to ‘Judaea and Samaria’ a statement of extreme bias, and rather offensive, using of the biblical names for the occupied West Bank echoes the Israeli government’s religion-based claim to the land where I live and where the Palestinians hope someday to have an independent state.

“I am a Palestinian Christian, and I know what Christianity is.  I am a descendant of the first Christians in the world, and Jesus Christ was born in my country, in my land. Bethlehem is a Palestinian town.  So I will not accept this one-upmanship on Christianity. Nobody has the monopoly”

PA Minister of Education and Higher Education, Sabri Saidam posted his Facebook page on Dec. 25, 2017:

“To the authentic Palestinian Jesus, and to the members of the [Palestinian] people – happy holidays”

The image shows a drawing of Jesus wearing a crown of thorns and a keffiyeh (Arab headdress) around his neck.

Text on image in English: “Made in Palestine

Mahmoud Al-Habbash, the Supreme Shari’ah Judge and Mahmoud Abbas’ Advisor on Religious and Islamic Affairs wrote:

“Christmas is also a Palestinian holiday, because Jesus, peace be upon him, was Palestinian. He was born in Palestine; lived and was sent [as prophet] to Palestine. Therefore, Christmas has a special Palestinian flavor.'”

[Official PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Dec. 22, 2014 and Ma’an, Dec. 21, 2014]

Adnan Al-Damiri, the official spokesman of the PA Security Forces, celebrated

“the anniversary of love and peace, the birth day of Jesus the Palestinian.”

[Facebook page of Adnan Al-Damiri, Dec. 25, 2014]

More on Palestinian Media Watch: https://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=505

I wrote this back in 2015 ‘St. George was a Palestinian.’ https://jewsdownunder.com/2015/05/11/st-george-was-a-palestinian/

“One has to wonder why the Arabs have such a desire to claim everyone as a Palestinian who comes from the fictitious State of Palestine.  Every Christmas we hear the proclamation that Jesus was one too.

Imagine my surprise on reading a link from Muslim Village , to Islam 21C  that St. George of all people, was a Palestinian.”

Cappadocia. credit:a2btravel.com

“…… his mother was named Polychronia,  a Greek native of Lydda.  His father Gerontius, was a Greek Christian from Cappadocia  and an official in the Roman army.

According to Wikipedia, both parents were Christians from noble families of the Anici, so their son was raised with Christian beliefs. They decided to call him Georgios (Greek), meaning “worker of the land” (i.e., farmer).”

For non-English people, St George is the patron saint of England.

One of the certain facts about Jesus was that he was a Jew.  He was a child of Jewish parents, he was raised in a Jewish home amongst Jewish traditions.  Jesus and his family would have been Torah observant, paid Roman tithes, kept Sabbath laws, circumcised their males, attended synagogue, observed purity laws in relation to childbirth etc., and kept the dietary laws.  Throughout his life, Jesus lived among Jews and his followers were Jews.  He most certainly was not the so-called Palestinian Arab who so many ‘story-tellers’ claim he was.

Another distortion is to hide from Palestinians that Jesus was a Jew who lived in the Land of Judaea/Israel.  PA leaders repeatedly define Jesus as a Palestinian who preached Islam, thus denying not only Jewish history, but also the history and legitimacy of Christianity.

The ultimate proof that Jesus was not ‘Palestinian’ is the fact that he was born in the 4th century BCE in province of Judaea‎, in the Roman Empire and died ‎around 30 to 33 CE.

The Roman Emperor Hadrian was determined to wipe out the identity of Israel/Judah/Judea after the defeat of Bar Kokhba (132–135 CE) by renaming it Syria Palaestina.

How on earth could Jesus have been a Palestinian, when the area wasn’t renamed for a hundred years after his death?

Besides the fact  the name Palestinian was created by the Soviet disinformation masters in 1964 when they created the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO).  The term “Palestinian People” as a description of Arabs in Palestine appeared for the first time in the preamble of the 1964 PLO Charter, drafted in Moscow.  The Charter was affirmed by the first 422 members of the Palestinian National Council, hand picked by the KGB.  This term was formally used by newspapers around the world after 1967.  With this in mind, how could have Jesus possibly been a ‘Palestinian’?

Good one.  Any answers?

 

 

 

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20 comments

  1. The internal logic of this marxist twaddle lays bare the old antisemitic lie that says the Jews killed Jesus. Clearly, it was the Palestinians who killed Jesus, so thankyou Linda Sarsour and other KGB morons for clearing that one up.

    • If nothing else, it’s highlighted her idiocy.

      • It’s all part of the Big Lie with which propagandists galore love to sow disinformation and discord.

        One of the most remarkable things about the Jesus-was-a-Palestinian reincarnation of the Giant Porky in the Sky is that most Arabs (including the majority of Palestinian Arabs) are Muslim and the Qu’ran clearly portrays Jesus as a Jew. And his mum too.

        Of course, a sizeable number of Christians also seem willing to believe this twaddle over their traditional NT Theology and Teachings. The irony of “Jesus the Palestinian” teaching in a Jewish Temple, not to mention a poor “Palestinian Arab” being descended from a very Jewish King David is beyond their ken apparently.

        Idiocracy rules.

  2. Of course Christ was a Palestinian! Now that we have cleared that one up…what’s next to find resolution upon!?

  3. Otto Waldmann

    Considering that we haven’t got enough tzures, now, the most ardent issue is to set the records straight and establish that it was, in fact, a Yid responsible for establishing perhaps the most antisemitic institution ever, the Church !!!
    Here is our golden opportunity to give away someone who symbolised for two millenia Jew hatred to those who nowdays do exactly the same, hate us with a vengeance, those palestinians, but, instead, we are hanging on to the shlemil for dear life ( and guaranteed death ).
    Ganz meshige, as THEIR jesus would most definitely say about us !!!

    Palestinians want him !!! They can keep him !!!

    • The Eight Gospels of the Bishop Antioch….Rome’s answer to destroying/crushing the initial close, and warming familiarity between Christians and Jews….which lasted for the ensuing 1700 years.

      • ….and in truth, probably still exists!

        • The “warming familiarity” between the two competing faiths was, in concrete terms, a demand to Rome by the chalachic Jews for the eradication of the new religion which falsely claimed to be of Judaic substance.
          The ensuing 1,700 years of “warmth” was, in another concrete terms, perhaps the most vicious religious antagonism cum persecution of the Jews by those who, in the end, succeeded in conquering Rome only to return the “favours” to those once “familiar” with.

    • On the other hand, Otto, why allow these antisemites any measure of success in their drive to delegitimise Israel? Instead, highlighting how intellectually dishonest, historically inaccurate and scripturally absurd their drivel is would surely make them look even more foolish than usual, not give them a free lunch?

      • Otto Waldmann

        On the other hand, John, it ain’t kosher at all to deal in bespoke Judaism by delving into issues and rendering historic “justice” while allowing Judaic blasphemy ( averot) in order just to combat worthless claims, idiotic ravings.
        Those really concerned, our good xtians friends, should get involved if they know what their own literature ( books) do say. To wit, by entering this religious tiff, we implicitly acknowledge/endorse a certain Messianic identity and that’s a line we cannot bear to…. cross.
        Xtians know too well how to handle fallacies and I trust them to set the score straight. Mind you that also, unavoidably, will bring up that indispensable deicidi rea and we know damned (sic) well who “committed “it !!

        • I’m with fellow Mancunian, Howard Jacobson on this one Otto.

          In his “Jesus the Jew”, he suggests it makes little or no sense to pretend the early Jerusalem-based church was anything other than a Jewish sect prior to the destruction of the Temple.

          Indeed, as Howard says, even though JC is presented throughout the NT and the Qu’ran as a Jew, there’s no need to ask for him back, thankyou all the same?

  4. Brian Goldfarb

    As my Liberal Jewish friends (and my Reform Jewish friends, as well, probably) always used to claim: Jesus was the first Liberal Jew: all he was looking to do was clean up the old religion. And what happens? Those lousy, and equally stupid, Romans go and martyr him.

    Another fine mess the Romans got us into!

    In reality, I suspect that if the story of Barabas is true, then Pontus Pilate was rightly more fearful of the disruption a reformer of the dominant religion in his bailiwick could cause than the antics of a mere bandit (and possibly a bit of a Robin Hood character to boot). Barabas could be rounded up anytime, even if it might cost a few Roman lives doing so. Leaving Jesus on the loose might cost the whole province, to say nothing of Pilate’s cushy government post with endless opportunities for a bit of graft.

    The corrupt businessman is far from a modern invention.

    • Then again, even the Rambam (1135-1204) in his Mishneh Torah identified JC as the would-be messiah prophecied in the Book of Daniel who failed to redeem Israel, did he not?

      • Otto Waldmann

        We are dealing here with distinct issues. One is the current political palestinian provocation, a tired , ineffective simply absurd if not idiotic, but still a functioning strategy.
        The other, is the well traversed already excessive conflict between historic events and the accuracy therein and theological doctrines.
        If we dispense at once with the palestinian nonsense and concentrate strictly on Judaism vs xtianity, we all know the Judaic Messianic concept and, within it, no one by the names “jc” is mentioned/accepted by any chalachic source.
        In general terms, failed “Messianic” figures, strictly by the JEWISH book, are to be expected. In part of the necessary condition for the presence/coming of a Moshiach and , on the other hand, the impending conflict we have with the normal desire of MAN, here, specifically the tried and tested Jew, to see the end of a world/life ruled by deprivations, injustices etc., indeed the coming of a true Messianic era.
        It is obvious that the xtian variety, as a totally distinct crede, has concluded something chalachic stringencies cannot concur with. Any attempt to impose upon Judaism anything inconsistent with it, is simply unacceptable.
        I understand the temptation (sic) to delve into these issues by any inquisitive mind, but “est modus in rebus”, there is limit in what we use as arguments, not to mention the aim of the same…..
        Incidentally, by the other books, it were NOT the Romans chiefly found to have committed the “unspeakable”, but those damned priests and the people they represented at the time.
        Interestingly enough, the Vatican seems to promote, since Vatican II, the idea that ONLY the Jews at “the time of the deicidi rea” were guilty of it and Yids like me, for instance, are no longer considered a party to “it”…..How nice !!!

        • Are you therefore saying that Maimonides was wrong in his Mishneh Torah, Otto?

          I know he has had his detractors but it seems reasonably clear that he considered JC to be a false messiah who was therefore a Jewish man?

          All other failed messiahs in Jewish history before or since the Rambam’s time were also of necessity, Jewish, surely?

          There are also various mentions in the Talmud regarding a certain Yeshu that are generally assumed to refer to one and the same JC too?

          • Au contraire ( Hung.) John, as I alluded already, Maimonides’ reference to the substance of another religion, completely distinct from Judaism, here xtianity, had the clear function to detach Judaism from any Messianic claims made outside the strict Judaic percept regarding Messianic matters, as, indeed, they were presented by the followers of jc.
            Must remember that, in Maimonides’ times, open and robust “encounters” of the contradictory kind between the church and Judaism were the norms, particularly in those places Maimonides lived, Spain and the ME. The Church itself strongly insisted on the notion that the ruling Jewish “Priesthood”, most of the Jews themselves, abandoned their own “messianic” saviour etc.
            Anyone aware of what xtian scriptures contain, would know what was the claim re jc’s ethnic and religious origins, as Brian said in the Ponthy Python version of events, that he was ” a Heb, a Kike, a Forbetwo…”. That was never a point of contention, only the Divine origins of the bloke….

  5. Otto Waldmann

    With the realistic prospects of the last palestinian propping, Iran, being deleted from the scene, these pathetic losers, hard line palestinians are trying the most unfathomable to reinvent themselves once again. This does not deserve even disdain, but relaxed ridicule as Israel has much better things to fix up than this fake drek, primitive, haloymes of some “spiritual” , why not divine claims of a “people” drenched in hate and self destruction.
    I, for one, am doing a bit of brain jogging, some mental gymnastics only because I am recovering from some light surgery and this site is one of the best, most relaxing place in my current condition…..
    Otherwise are we that gullible to play into the two left hands of some backward clowns pretending they have a “cause” !!!!

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