‘Palestinians’ Peace?

When you look at the facts on the ground I think it’s clear to say that the so-called ‘Palestinians’ do not want PEACE, or maybe some people do, but their leaders do not.

Maybe if they do have peace it will be the end of the *gravy train for the leaders.  The ‘gravy train’ being the millions of dollars pouring in from international aid.

“Estimates around the world are that Khaled Mashaal is currently worth $2.6 billion, but the numbers mentioned by the Arab commentators (based on their many sources) are much higher, varying from $2-5 billion invested in Egyptian and Persian Gulf banks, and some in real estate projects in the Persian Gulf countries.”

Read Meet the Hamas billionaires an interesting read.
credit: Jewish Wikipedia

In 1937 the Arabs opposed and condemned the partition plan proposed by British government, which then ruled Palestine, to divide the land into separate Arab and Jewish states.  This was the Peel Commission , formally known as the Palestine Royal Commission, it was a British Royal Commission of Inquiry, headed by Lord Peel, appointed in 1936 to investigate the causes of unrest in Mandatory Palestine, which was administered by Britain, following the six-month-long Arab general strike in Mandatory Palestine.

In 1948 the Arabs refused PEACE and chose to go to war rather than accept the UN’s decision to partition Palestine between its Jewish and Arab populations.

Five Arab nations attacked the fledgling State of Israel. They did not defeat Israel, but  Jordan and Egypt managed to steal  land from their Arab brothers.

Jordan claimed Judaea and Samaria, naming it the West Bank of Jordan and Egypt took Gaza.

Consistently since then they have refused PEACE. The last being before Obama left office.

After the 1967 war, Israel offered to relinquish the land it had acquired in exchange for PEACE with its neighbours, the Arab world’s response issued at a summit in Khartoum, was not one no, but three:

NO PEACE WITH ISRAEL.
NO NEGOTIATIONS WITH ISRAEL.
NO RECOGNITION OF ISRAEL

In 2000, Camp David offered Arabs a sovereign state with shared control of Jerusalem and billions of dollars in compensation for ‘Palestinian’ refugees.  Yasser Arafat refused the offer, and returned to launch the deadly terror war known as the Second Intifada.

That same year Yasser Arafat discussed the prospects for Middle East PEACE with CNN’s Christiane Amanpour .

He said on the subject of making PEACE..

“I can’t betray my people. I can’t betray the Arabs. I can’t betray the Christians. I can’t betray the Moslems.”

credit: Reuters

In 2008, then Israeli Prime Minister Ehud made Abbas an unprecedented final status offer, which gave ‘Palestinians’ land equivalent to all of the West Bank and Gaza after land swaps and included the painful concession of giving up Jerusalem’s Old City to international control.

He told Abbas,

“it will be 50 years before there will be another Israeli prime minister that will offer you what I am offering you now. Don’t miss this opportunity”.

Abbas never responded.

Recently, Abbas described his response to that offer in an interview with the following words,

“I rejected it out of hand.”

In 2010, the United States requested a 10-month settlement construction freeze to coax Abbas to the table; he waited nine months before entering negotiations, and even then only wanted to discuss extending the freeze.

Martin Indyk, Chief US negotiator during the 2014 negotiations between Israel and the ‘Palestinian’ Authority, told The Atlantic in July 2014:

“I saw him [Netanyahu] sweating bullets to find a way to reach an agreement.”

But Abbas simply walked away.

Hence it is Abbas who refuses to negotiate in good faith, and it is Abbas who walked away from PEACE negotiations in 2008, 2010 and 2014.

Similarly, his predecessor Yasser Arafat rejected Ehud Barak’s offers in 2000 and 2001. So if the peace process is stalled, it certainly isn’t Israel’s fault.  Bill Clinton said in 2016

“I killed myself to give the Palestinians a state. I had a deal they turned down that would have given them all of Gaza, … between 96 and 97 percent of the West Bank, compensating land in Israel, you name it.”

It has also been refused numerous times when John Kerry attempted to get the Arabs to the table.

President Trump now has some kind of a plan to bring PEACE between Israel and the so-called ‘Palestinians’.

But do they want it, is another issue?

Khaled Mashaal, vowed to

“build and Islamic Palestinian State on all the land of Israel, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.”

Speaking before tens of thousands of supporters to celebrate the 25th founding of Hamas, he said the Jewish State would be wiped away through resistance or military action.

“The State would come from resistance, not negotiation.  Liberation first then statehood”

In December 2018 Khaled Mashaal called for guerrilla warfare to ‘liberate West Bank’ and ‘all Palestine’.

The former leader of the Hamas terror group has called on West Bank Palestinians to prepare for “guerrilla warfare” in the West Bank and ongoing “resistance” to force Israel to retreat from the territory.

Khaled Mashaal said this would be a step on the way to its retreat from “all of Palestine.”

Speaking on the Al-Jazeera TV network on December 2, Mashaal, in a play on René Descartes’ famous philosophical proposition, said:

“The Palestinians say ‘I resist, therefore I am.’”

Khaled Mashaal speaks in Doha, Qatar, August 28, 2014. (AP/Osama Faisal)

The former leader of the Hamas terror group has called on West Bank Palestinians to prepare for “guerrilla warfare” in the West Bank and ongoing “resistance” to force Israel to retreat from the territory.

Khaled Mashaal said this would be a step on the way to its retreat from “all of Palestine.”

In comments translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute, Mashaal said that according to the Quran,

“Jihad, resistance, and self-defense [are] the essence of life.

“The abandonment of Jihad leads to humiliation and death. Hence, resistance is the pinnacle of life. A person who lives under occupation, and who does not resist, is in fact dead.”

“When did Israel withdraw from southern Lebanon? It wasn’t a result of negotiations — not in Madrid and not in Washington. It retreated as a result of resistance. When did it retreat from Gaza? After the [Second] Intifada in 2000 and the heroic resistance. Today we are being called and preparing to force Israel to retreat from Jerusalem and from the West Bank. Allah willing, this is on the way to its retreat from all of Palestine,”

Khaled Mashaal vowed to use military force to build an Islamic Palestinian state on all the land of Israel, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.”

Mahmoud Abbas believes Trump’s peace deal will be thwarted.  The PA chairman makes clear the Palestinians will continue to oppose President Trump’s “Deal of the Century”.

Peace??

He doesn’t even know what the deal is likely to be but he’s ready to throw away the chance of peace.

He said  that the Palestinian Arabs face many challenges, and primarily the so-called “Deal of the Century”, as the Trump administration’s peace plan for Israel and the PA has come to be known.

Speaking at a meeting with members of the new cabinet headed by Mohammad Shtayyeh, Abbas predicted that in the end,

“nothing will remain of it (the Deal of the Century) and there will be no announcement about it.”

“We have opposed this deal all along because it took Al-Quds out of Palestine, so we did not want the rest of the plan because there is no state without Al-Quds, and there will not be a state in Gaza nor a state without Gaza.”

“Why does President Trump want to talk about any solution or any issue after he transferred the embassy to Al-Quds and recognized Al-Quds as the capital of Israel? Therefore, I do not think there is any point in having a dialogue with him,”

credit: The Daily Edge

That’s about it in a nutshell.

I can’t see how the Palestinian Authority and Hamas can possibly join as one to make a deal. You have two completely different , what you can very loosely call governments, with very different ideas, who hate one another.  They will never agree and it will carry on as it has doe for many years with Israel suffering in the process. They formed a  in 2014, which was over before it started.

PEACE??

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notes: *Gravy train – A situation in which someone can make a lot of money for very little effort.*

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7 comments

  1. I can’t fathom why anybody in the world expects peace. The sole representative of the Palestinians is the PLO, a decision taken by the Arab League in 1974,and now an integralpart of the Palestinian Constitution. This makes elections irrelevant for peace talks, with only the PLO entitled to hold them. The PL stands for “Palestine Liberation”,meaning taking all of Israel, which is what the charter says. In the last election, the only election, over 126 of 132 seats went to groups with the same aim of liberating all of Palestine, many with the same “P” and “L” in theis names, and in their charters … PFLP, DFLP etc. But they don’t really matter, the PLO does. That’s why peace has never been an option since Oslo gave the PLO autority and recognition, with which they have so far achieved everything in their “10 Point Program” of 1974, to destroy Israel.

    As a footnote, all UNGA are advisory, as was the Partition Plan, and not incumbent on anybody. It’s an important distinction, as Israel, quite rightly, ignores most of them. There are far too many Israel bashers getting traction out of UN resolutions, fallaciously based in the belief that they are binding or meaningful. I meet far too many idiots who claim these advisories to be “International law”, so it’s worth taking every opportunity to point out that they’re not.

    • Can’t fathom it out either.

      Just from the fact you have two sets of people living in a fractured would-be state, is enough to see it’s not possible.

  2. Larry Langman

    In other sections of JDU reference is made and has been made to the multi-billions flowing to individual in the PLO and Hamas administration…..for instance Hamas leader-turned-tycoon Khaled Mashaal ( Est. $2-$5 Billion). Deputy Director of the Hamas Political Bureau Musa Abu Marzook (Est. $2 – $3 Billion).
    In articles in the London based Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper recently, estimated of the number of Gaza millionaires as being “north of 600”.
    This is the real story of the Palestinian Peace…..Not while a dollar is to be made.

    • Larry, in 2014 a Fatah spokesman claimed that while Gaza is one of the poorest places in the world, there are 1,700 millionaires among Hamas members, hinting that the terror group imposes steep taxes on its citizens for goods entering from Egypt and Israel, and that this money finds its way into Hamas officials’ pockets.

      http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/178715

  3. Leon Poddebsky

    The map above is highly deceptive.
    The Mandate which the League of Nations gave to Britain for the reconstitution of The Jewish National Home was called “Palestine” and it comprised the territory BOTH east and west of the Jordan River.
    Article 25 of the Mandate refers to “…Palestine east of the Jordan River….”
    The eastern part constitutes 80% of Palestine, and the British ripped it off the Jews in 1921-22.

    • Which is the correct one then?

      • Leon Poddebsky

        The label, “Palestine” should extend across BOTH Western AND Eastern Palestine.
        Eastern Palestine constitutes 80% of the territory of Palestine.
        Article 25 of the Mandate refers to “Palestine east of the Jordan River…”
        That Britain doublecrossed the Jews by forbidding them to live in Eastern Palestine did not alter either the geographic extent of the Mandated territory nor its political status as 80%of the mandated territory.

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