Abbas in Christmas message: Jesus was ‘Palestinian messenger’

Here we go again with the “Jesus was a Palestinian” nonsense.

As Mike Lumish writes Arabs didn’t arrive until the 7th Century CE in Eretz Israel.

Even supposing that isn’t a given, how on earth could he be a ‘Palestinian’?

It all started with the creation of a fictitious ‘Palestinian People’. This collective noun was created by the Soviet disinformation masters in 1964, when they created the Palestinian Liberation Organization, the ‘PLO’.

 

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The term ‘Palestinian People’ as a descriptive of Arabs in ‘Palestine’ appeared for the first time in the preamble of the 1964 PLO Charter, drafted in Moscow. The Charter was affirmed by the first 422 members of the Palestinian National Council, handpicked by the KGB. The term ‘Palestinian’ started to be used on June 4th 1967.

A well-known Arab is quoted as saying.

“Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?

We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians – they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.

We have accepted the term ‘Palestinian’ all too readily in the same way we accepted the term ‘West Bank’. At least if it HAS to be used, call it the WEST BANK of JORDAN, which after all is what is was called in Jordan’s hand.

The name of the region where the bulk of Jewish history lies is  and always has been JUDAEA and SAMARIA

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Haaretz

We celebrate Christmas in Bethlehem under occupation,’ the Palestinian Authority president said in his statement from Ramallah, reiterating commitment to peace deal.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas called Jesus a role model for the Palestinians, in a Christmas message from the West Bank Monday.

Referring to Christ as “a Palestinian messenger,” Abbas said that

“as we Palestinians strive for our freedom two millennia later, we do our best to follow his example. We work with hope, seeking justice, in order to achieve a lasting peace.”

He criticized Israeli restrictions on the entry of Palestinians living abroad into the West Bank, as well as Israel’s controversial West Bank security barrier, which cuts off Bethlehem, which he charged “steals land.”

“We celebrate Christmas in Bethlehem under occupation,”

he said in the Christmas statement from Ramallah.

Abbas, scheduled to attend Christmas in Bethlehem on the southern West Bank Tuesday, Christian Arabs were not a minority in Palestine, but “an integral part of the Palestinian people.”

The vast majority of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza, however, are Sunni Muslims.

He expressed hope that the upcoming visit of Pope Francis to the Holy Land in March would be “a good opportunity for Christians from all over the world to come closer to their sisters and brothers in Palestine, and for His Holiness to spread the message of justice and peace for the Palestinians, as for all peoples of the world.”

Abbas said he was committed “to bringing a just peace to the region” through negotiations with Israel by ending the occupation and the establishment “of a fully independent and sovereign Palestinian State on the 1967 border with East Jerusalem as its capital.”

The annual traditional Christmas procession from the Christian Quarter in Jerusalem’s Old City to Bethlehem, led by Latin Patriarch Fouad Twal, is scheduled to leave shortly after 12 A.M.

The traditional Christmas mass is scheduled to start at 11:30 P.M.

Meanwhile, a video posted on YouTube on Monday by a user called PLOMEDIA1 depicts what appears to be the pope travelling through Israel and the West Bank. With a mournful version of Silent Night playing in the background, the pontiff passes by scenes of Palestinian suffering.

The end credit says that the video was created by NAD – possibly a reference to the PLO’s Negotiations Affairs Department.

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28 comments

  1. Leon Poddebsky

    Abbas is one of Goebbels’ best pupils: the bigger the lie and the more often it’s uttered, the more it will be believed….especially when so many are predisposed to believe anything, no matter how laughably false, about Jews when it puts us in a bad light.
    The churches, especially at this time of the year, need to take stock and confess, and beg forgiveness for their sins against the Jews, in that for 2,000 years they have been inflicting gross injustices on the people from whom Jesus sprang…..I suppose that very fact makes it a problem for them.
    As you can see, I don’t believe that treading on eggshells will turn hostile churches into non-hostile ones; nor will the direct approach, I know, because ideology / theology trumps logic and reason and humanity so often.
    They have not realised yet that their gratuitous hostility and aggressiveness against us reveal their insecurity.

  2. Every word that comes out of the mouth of Abu Mazen is a lie.

    He says he wants peace. ! What a joke.
    If he has peace it will be the end of his days of corruption.

    He says “We celebrate Christmas in Bethlehem under occupation”
    Occupation? Come off it. Israel has no control over Bethlehem, why does he think the Christian population is fleeing.

    “We work with hope, seeking justice, in order to achieve a lasting peace.” This is choked on. What a load of crock!!

    Then he wants “a fully independent and sovereign Palestinian State on the 1967 border with East Jerusalem as its capital”

    Wake up mister, wake up world.. what 67 border?

    We are idiots for letting the world think there is one.

    1967 is the line at which an offensive stopped. Why the hell it stopped is beyond me. They should have gone all the way to the Jordan, after all that what it says in the Mandate for Palestine.

    Where the hell is East Jerusalem? It’s certainly not a city in its own right. There is only one Jerusalem and that is the Capital of Eretz Israel.

  3. Of course Jesus was a Palestinian. Jesus was a JEW – and the JEWS are the only true “Palestinians”.

    • Jews are most certainly not Palestinians

      There was never a country or a race of people called Palestinian.

      It was a region so named by the Romans in the 2nd century CE.

      Christianity started in the middle of the first century, long after the death of Jesus.

  4. Heritage theft and the fabrication of history out of whole cloth are a part of the larger Palestinian-Arab strategy to delegitimize the Jewish state through delegitimizing the history of the Jewish people.

    I find it to be a particularly insidious tactic, but they seem to use it freely.

  5. From my hazy memory, when the Romans expelled the Jews from their homeland, they renamed the country Phillistina, after the Jews’ worst enemies. The Arabs only began calling themselves Palestinians as a propaganda tool, to claim a false birthright. There is no difference between Palestinian Arabs and any other Arabs. There never was a Palestinian Kingdom. It’s all fabrication.

    Therefore, Jesus could not have been a Palestinian. If he ever returns, he would be surprised, as someone who never renounced his Judaism, to discover that he is now claimed as a Palestinian, presumably Muslim, a religion that didn’t exist at the time of his birth.

    • Leon Poddebsky

      We cannot expect the various churches to refute this lie, which also should be highly offensive to them. After all, the Gospels do refer to Jesus as “Rabbi.” A ‘Balestinian’ rabbi????? WOW!!! Did he wear a keffyiah? Yes; he must have, but those nasty Jews have corrupted the word and the headdress itself, call it a kippah and have totally emptied it of its original noble quality.

    • Leon Poddebsky

      Hi Pam: the Roman emperor, Hadrian (who is considered by Western civilisation to be one of the “four good emperors”), killed about 600,000 Jews in the Land of Israel; utterly laid waste to Jerusalem and inflicted on it the name Aelia Capitolina, a heathen entity;he laid utter waste to Judea and saddled it and us with the name “Palaestina.”

    • Leon Poddebsky

      The PLO charter explicitly and emphatically asserts that the “Palestinians” acknowledge that they are ARABS.
      In unguarded moments their leaders confess that they use the term “Palestinian” only as a propaganda tool. For example the leader of the A’ Saiqa terrorists (a Syrian-sponsored gang)declared this quite openly some decades ago.
      Propaganda power has, however, succeeded in imprinting on even educated Western minds, a blatant lie.

      • Leon, you have to give the PLO an A+ for their propaganda. It’s quite amazing that the whole world has swallowed their BIG LIE.

  6. As it’s Christmas day, I’m indulging in a little nostalgia. I remember a poem by the late British poet laureate John Betjeman (d. 1984):

    Towards the end it goes –

    And is it true,
    This most tremendous tale of all,
    Seen in a stained-glass window’s hue
    A Baby in an ox’s stall ?

    The Maker of the stars and sea
    Become a Child on earth for me ?
    And is it true ? For if it is,
    No loving fingers tying strings
    Around those tissued fripperies,
    The sweet and silly Christmas things,
    Bath salts and inexpensive scent
    And hideous tie so kindly meant,

    No love that in a family dwells,
    No carolling in frosty air,
    Nor all the steeple-shaking bells
    Can with this single Truth compare –
    That God was man in Palestine
    And lives today in Bread and Wine.

    I remember at the time thinking how bizarre it was to call it Palestine.
    I still do.

  7. The vile canard that Jesus the Judean was a Palestinian (the Romans, of course, renamed Judea Palestine as an insult to the Jews and an attempt at eradicating their perceived ties with the land) is one of the sharpest weapons in the Palestinian Arabs’ armoury.
    See what I wrote about this some time ago, and how certain westerners are promoting the lie:
    http://daphneanson.blogspot.com.au/2010/12/open-seasons-greetings-taking-jew-out.html
    Israel is sometimes its own worst enemy – why did it give Arafat’s cause a propaganda victory by using the term Palestinians for the Arab residents there? Until Arafat conjured up that label they were known as Arabs. It obviously undermines Israel. On my blog I try to say “Palestinian Arabs” much of the time, but it is a lost cause.

    • Daphne,

      “why did it give Arafat’s cause a propaganda victory by using the term Palestinians for the Arab residents there?”

      Perhaps somewhere out there is someone’s Master’s Thesis, but I am not familiar with the work, if any, on that question. I am sure that it must be referenced here and there in the literature, but I am not familiar with any in depth discussion on the question. If any of you guys are, I would very much appreciate a source or a link.

      As for terminology, I never use the word “Palestinian” to refer to the local Arabs because “Palestinian” is no more an ethnicity or a nationality than is “Californian.”

      It is true, of course, that all nationalities, including the Jewish one, are social constructs. It was Benedict Anderson who famously referred to nationalities as “imagined communities.”

      But while Jewish nationhood is, along with Chinese nationhood, among the very oldest on the planet, so-called “Palestinian” nationhood only seriously emerged within living memory and did so for the express purpose of undermining Jewish claims to historically Jewish land.

      What I do not understand is how it is that the Jewish people are expected to respect a brand-spanking new national identity that came into being for the expressed purpose of undermining our security and existence and identity in this world?

      • What aren’t you familiar with Mike?

        “why did it give Arafat’s cause a propaganda victory by using the term Palestinians for the Arab residents there?”

        Why? Because everyone stopped referring to them as Arabs and gave their cause acceptance. A people without a land.

        Why did we so readily the name change of Judaea and Samaria to the West Bank of Jordan?

    • Daphne, I’ve just read your article, which answered the question I asked Leon: Re Hadrian renaming Judaea Palaestina, didn’t that take place after Jesus was born?

      Incidentally, when I was a child in England, we were told at cheder that Jews don’t name their children Adrian, because of the Roman Emperor. I met a Jewish woman here in Melbourne whose son was named Adrian and told her this. She had never heard about it.

    • Leon Poddebsky

      It is not a lost cause, Daphne: just quote the PLO charter, where they explicitly assert that they are Arabs!!

  8. I’m a devout catholic and Jesus was a JEW. The Chrsitian scriptures give numerous accounts of his parents compliance with Jewish customs for newborns, his own attendance at synagogue and his celebration of Passover. On multiple occasions when he performs a miraculous healing he abjures the recipient to offer sacrifice according to the law of Moses.

    Further, Christian theology is incomprehensible unless one understands the Christian argument of how Jesus fulfills expectations in the Hebrew Scriptures — he can’t do so unless he is Jewish. (I’m arguing against Abu Mazen when I say that not for a faith position)

    As a Christian I am disturbed and offended by the PLO president’s attempt to minimize Jesus as a “Palestinian Spokesman.” He’s trying to guild PLO acts with Christ’s blessing which I also find blasphemous.

    • Welcome Rod and thank you for your input.

      I am Jewish, but I am knowledgeable regarding the New Testament, having attended a Church of England boarding school for 6 years. I attended church daily and twice on Sunday. The only thing I was exempt from was NT scripture lessons!

      Jesus never claimed to be anything but Jewish. He is referred to as ‘rabbi’ which means ‘teacher’. Indeed he was celebrating Passover, the Last Supper, when arrested by the Romans. You’ll note that the Christian festivals of note occur around the same time as Jewish Festivals of note.

      Muslims are well known for their fabrication of history and their attempt to cover up what came before them. Look at anywhere in the world which they conquered.

      They build on top of things and then claim they were there first. Three of note which come to mind are Cordoba, Hebron and the best known of all Jerusalem.

      I also plan to write a piece about Mary, Miryam. They claim her as a non-existent Palestinian too, though not quite as loudly

      • Rod, I am a Christian and agree with you that Jesus born a Jew, understood the Law, the Prophets and the Psalms and was focussed on Israel and Jerusalem. We must be careful to distinguish between Jesus the Jew and Isa who was not Jesus. Jesus supported the Laws of Moses, Isa rejects them and supports the Sharia law. Isa will descend to a minaret in a Damascus mosque, support the Mahdi and kill Christians, destroying Christianity (breaking the cross). The Bible has Jesus defeating G-d’s enemies who come from Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Jordan, Iran, Arabia, Egypt etc. Guess which religion they follow?
        It is an anachronism to use the word Palestinian as others have stated here.
        Notice that Abbas forgot to mention that his team are persecuting and killing Christians reducing the population to about 4% from 27% about 100 years ago. Abbas also didn’t mention that Muslims are required to hate and kill Christians so it is a tad disingenuous to attend a Christian event. Abbas made no mention either of the Muslim Brotherhood Project document where the aim is to use terror to wipe out the Jews, following the example of Mohammed who said using terror made him victorious. [Bukhari vol 1 book 7 no. 331]

  9. Shirlee and Geoff thanks for the additional comments, I’ve had to delve deep in my professional life into the Koran. I tried, I tried for a long time to view the main stream thrust of Islam as peaceful and positive.

    Unfortunately only the Ahmadiyya version of Islam (as far as I can tell) is willing to explicitly denounce violent jihad, death for apostasy etc. In other words they are the only muslim group I’ve found willing to apply historical context to the problematic passages of the Koran.

    A collection of many books written over time requires interpretation and context, a book whispered into your ear by an angel presents immense challenges.

    • The Ahmadi Muslims suffer dreadfully at the hands of the other adherents to Islam. The two main stream of Islam do not recognise them possibly because they are a new sect.

      Within Judaism we have newer sects than that and whilst we don’t recognise them all, we certainly don’t oppress, persecute or discriminate against them. I have forgotten most things I knew about them. I wrote an article some years back about them.

      Thanks for you comments Rod and please visit again